The following are examples of very typical yet interesting
dialogue between LDS and Christians about their beliefs and it
reveals a wide gap between them. One can identify why there is
often such difficulty in communication. I did not change the
The following dialogue is a response to a video... I
changed the names as not to offend anyone, it is important to see
the dialogue for what it is and note the wide variation of
LDS offer alien priesthood and temple, polytheism,
polygamy, racism, conflicting scripture, false history, false
translation (the BoA), another gospel and baptism, plan of salvation
via works, proxy works for dead, covenants, oaths, goal to become
eternally procreating Gods, modern prophets, God and Jesus have
bodies, work accomplished for salvation after this life (Bible: we
die then judgment), teach that Gods love, word, truth, and work on
the cross were somehow lost and needed to be restored
Christian ditto !! --but the arrangement on
this song is beautiful
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Say
whatever you will about Mormons, they bear good fruit. Better often
than thse that spend thier time trying to cut down this good and
fruitful religion. This music is food to my soul. Take your hatred
No hatred. What part of the above is not found within
the LDS foundation?
LDS are attempting to knock on our bible believing
Christian doors to tell us that our belief is an abomination and
that we should become Mormon and then try to call it Christianity.
Christians stand upon the foundation of Jesus Christ
we do not want to knock down good christians. We just
want to invite you to hear what we believe to be true. Second I hate
to be so picky but we are NOT "mormons" We are The Church Of Jesus
Christ Of LatterDay Saints. We believe in Christ too. About the Book
of Mormon We just believe it is scripture in ADDITION to the Bible.
We do believe in the bible. However it is wonderful to have suc
inspirational music to motivate us in our Christian duties, to love
everyone like Christ taught us.
your message appears as a response my message, only I
can't find it. Was it deleted/removed? Not faith building?
As one who was LDS for nearly 32 years, I can say
with confidence that Christianity and Mormonism are not alike. Every
part is different. The most important distinction is that we as
Christians do not believe that Gods ultimate plan is for us to
become gods. In contrast to this we as Christians surrender to
Christ and are in Him.
Thank you but we are still Christian, Christians are
those who believe in and follow Christ.
LDS desire to join Christianity.
This is clearly an empty claim without knowledge,
understanding and truth.
Mormonism and Christianity are built on two
completely different foundations. A different Jesus, different God(s),
different contradictory priesthood, different contradictory temples,
different baptism, different contradictory scriptures. The LDS
foundation shifts as sand. Adam is god or not. Polygamy or not.
Blacks no salvation or not.
Mormonism is NOT Biblical.
LDS blah blah blah
no one cares buddy
The name of the "LDS" church is THE CHURCH OF JESUS
CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS. We believe in a living and resurrected
Christ who after his resurrection and ascension into heaven, visited
the people of the ancient americas the record of which is found in
the Book of Mormon. We know the Book of Mormon to be the word of God
and we know there was a "restitution(restoration) of all things"
Acts 3:29 where the priesthood was conferred by the laying on of
hands on the prophet Joseph Smith.
Having examined the BoM from every possible angle,
including prayer, it does not qualify as scripture and is NOT
accepted by the Christian community. On the other hand, the Bible is
continually being up girded by archeology, scripture, history, maps,
facts and truth.
There is nothing to support the BoM. The Book of
Abraham is a clear example of Joseph Smiths translation style. Pure
subjective with no objective support.
I love you. I would love to see you really know Jesus
Christ in truth.
well, the bible says "cursed is he who trusts in the
arm oof flesh" why is it so hard to understand that communities,
societies, scientific studies or anything like that has a say in teh
things of God? "Ask and ye shall receive, seek and ye shall find,
knock and it shall be opened unto you"... the apostle James directed
"If any of you lack wisdom LET HIM ASK OF GOD that giveth to all men
liberally and upbraideth not and it shall be given him".
As we examine the facts within the Bible and history,
God gave us everything needed including facts, truth, archeology,
and alignment with the word so that we would NOT miss Jesus Christ
and what He did for us and NOT miss who we are in Him.
It is definately NOT all subjective...as we have seen
from history, pure subjective "truth" has gotten many in big
When we get out of alignment with the Word of God we
are in trouble. Bless you.
We DO NOT practice poligamy today, though the early
members of our church were commanded of Jesus Christ to practice it.
The practice stopped by the Lord's command in 1890, over 110 years
ago. Those who practice it today ARE NOT in fellowship owith our
church or DO NOT belong to it. You're invited to learn more and find
out for yourself if this things are true or not. I received an
answer to my prayers and I know that these things are true because
of the feelings of peace and assurance I feel.
Regardless of whether LDS practice plural marriage
today, Joseph Smith brought upon the LDS a "new and everlasting
covenant and if you do not abide...you will be damned" LDS scripture
D&C section 132.
This is only one of the thousands of problems in LDS
doctrine that caused me to leave the deception for truth. I left
Mormonism after 30 years for a genuine relationship with Jesus
If you really study LDS scripture, you'll realize
that the new and everlasting covenant is ETERNAL MARRIAGE, which is
performed in Temples. Joseph Smith didn't bring it upon us, the Lord
revealed it to him.
If you read the Book of Mormon yourself, you'll
realize that it supports the Bible... it's not a competitor, but
rather, a companion to it. It testifies of Christ and the invitation
to read it is for everyone. The promise is that iof you ask in
faith, you'll receive an answer.
If I really study LDS scripture, specifically D&C
section 132:4 it is unmistakable what it means. Joseph Smith was in
trouble...If we understand Jesus Christ and the NEW COVENANT that He
made with us, that we are in a period of GRACE now...D&C 132
represents a different God. Jesus would not manipulate like the God
of D&C 132 does. Threatening with destruction, threatening Emma, it
is just bad. Read it. Know that Joseph was feeling pressure for his
secret sin at that time.
Mormons believe in the Bible and in Christ. Read
their list of beleifs, please.
"Believe in". Even demons believe in Christ, but that
does not make them Christians. LDS Believe in Christ then add an
incredible amount of conditions on top of that. When we honestly
examine LDS teachings, scripture and words of the LDS Prophets, we
soon realize that it is literally impossible to attain Salvation
according to Mormonism. (See how your salvation hinges on tithing in
For Christians, Salvation is in Jesus Christ alone.
The Way the Truth and the Life.
I do not agree with a society given THEMSELVES
attributes the Lord didn't give them. Who gave them authority to
speak in behalf of the Lord and say what's christian and what's not?
That's what a prophet does, and that's why today we
have a living prophet named Thomas S. Monson.
God gave you and I the authority to act in His Name
through his Name. He said, "Greater things will you do because I
LDS, you as a woman in understanding who you
are in Christ have more power and authority in the NAME of Jesus
Christ than all LDS priesthood wielding men on earth. Why, because
when you have Jesus Christ in truth you have the genuine article.
There is no such thing as the priesthood that LDS
teach in the Bible.
Jesus Christ is our High Priest forever...
Yes, the priesthood was goiven to the apostles just
as they gae the hoky ghost ans the priesthood to others... you can't
deny the ordinance of the laying on of hands to confer the
priesthood, read it, it's in Acts...
"Greater things will you odo because I go..." you've
gotta read that thoroughly because that's what Jesus said to the
apostles, to whom he had given AUTHORITY... you don't get the
priesthood by just reading the bible... how did Moses receive the
priesthood fom Jethro? study that.
Joseph Smith, Sidney Rigdon, Oliver Cowdry crafted
the Melchesedic and Aaronic priesthood. There is no such thing as
the LDS teach. There is absolutely no power of God in the LDS
The authority is in Christ. Christ is in us.
The laying on of hands in meaningless.
Only through Jesus Christ according to His word is
there power and authority. We must lay down our adulterous
affections of any other counterfeit and kneel upon the alter in
surrender to Him. laying down pride.
You're not debating, your just denying.
Meaningless? So what Christ practice on the earth in
His ministry was meaningless? Think again.
For those who do not accept His free gift, yes it was
For those who understand the simplicity in Christ,
and the magnitude of that free gift, it is a really big deal.
Jesus said, "Let he who has an ear, hear what the
We are called to surrender our lives, our flesh our
self righteousness to Him as a gift, in trade...for ALL that He has.
This is summed up in the Holy Bible and when set in
motion Jesus said, "It is finished."
God is now in us.
why would someone, after thoroughly reading and
examining the bible, with it's rich history of God's communication
with man in ancient times ever believe that God has stopped to
reveal his word? why would someone ever believe that God did not
reach out to people of the ancient world who weren't in Israel if He
loves all men and is no respecter of persons?
really? then what were the consecrated priests of
ancient Israel doing, something that anyone could have done at the
time? and also, why did the apostles have to be called and set apart
as well as the 70 who were called also by Jesus? the priesthood is a
rampant and ongoing theme of the bible. to say that Christ ever
would anoint someone to a calling and that calling having no
authority is where the true mistake is. God has always anointed to
His purposes His prophets and servants.
What are you saying?
The Prophets of the OT were the mouthpiece for God.
They prophesied the coming of the king. At that time God could not
dwell in men because of sin. He spoke through prophets. The King
came and went to the cross, covering your sin and mine from the
beginning to the end, enabling God to dwell with us now. Jesus said
where two or more are gathered there am I....
in the book of Acts we find a history of certain sons
of a man who had claimed to take upon themselves the authority of
Christ. you might want to re-read the new testament if you are going
to start talking about priesthood authority.
Christian, where 'd'ya go? you were so eager
to pick on LDS... why dont you respond to me?
Christian: Salvation is a process. We do the
best we can with the knowledge that we have, and Christ's Atonement
will make up for the rest. I find that extremely comforting and
attainable. I just try to fix the little things and hopefully one
day i'll make it.
Salvation is NOT a process but was set in place once
for all forever.
We are called to share the good news once we
Jesus gave you and I a blank check, we can either
cash it or rip it up and follow a counterfeit.
The good news is that we have been set free from
bondage and are not to return to it once we understand our freedom
God is with you now, your sins are covered, He
desires a relationship with you, like the marriage covenant. God is
may I ask what religious denomination do you belong
Will religion save you or I?
It will ultimately come down to you alone before the
judgment seat of Christ. You can say but I was LDS, or this or
that...He will judge you with righteous judgment.
This occurs according to the Bible, immediately when
you die. "You die, then the judgment."
It is important that you look to Christ in truth.
Find a Bible believing church that teaches the word in truth.
Institutions that claim to be the truth will lead
A church won't saveyou itself, oyou'll be judged of
your works, thoughts and desires; but the Lord estabished a church
so that we could receive ordinances essential to salvation, such as
baptism (read the last verses on Mark 16 and John 3:5. Baptism is
essential to salvation, and so it is receiving the Holy Ghost by the
laying on of hands and other ordinances that obviuosly you don't
understand, such as eternal marriage.
Eternal marriage? I see D&C section 132 differently
for sure. Understanding the period of grace that ensued beginning at
the transition between the OT and the NT at the Cross...
as compared to what JS what attempting to do with his
justification using threat tactics in 132 in order to repair damage
already done in his affections with others beyond Emma.
Have you really read D&C 132. Imagine Jesus writing
What did Jesus say to the woman caught in the act of
If "salvation is a process", then that process spits
in the face of GRACE. We are saved by Grace period!
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
How and why? If you have an understanding of the
Word, and compare with foundation of sand upon which the LDS
religion is squared upon, why would you leave your first love.
Revelations to the church at Ephesus. Galatians, foolish Galatians,
who has bewitched you? Read it. We must be careful upon whom or what
we build our house.
When the winds come and the rain falls, will your
foundation shift. Polygamy or not. Blacks saved or not, Adam god or
not, are you a God or not, Joseph a God????
Black people are able to receive the priesthood since
1978. Adam IS NOT GOD. The church has never taught it and nevew will
because is not true. The Book of Mormon is the word of God and that
knowledge won't come to you by rationalizing what you learn; it'll
only come to you through the sincere prayer of an honest thruth-seeking
These things are the foundation of Mormonism. They
were taught at the pulpit by LDS prophets. Albeit they shift when
the wind blows.
I understand the BoM inside and out. It is not
scripture. It is not equal to the Word of God.
What LDS teach of blacks (no salvation from Cain to
1978)is not of God.
LDS teach There is no salvation outside of the LDS
priesthood. When we spend time to understand this, we can see that
it is false.
Jesus Christ is sufficient in the Word.
wow if you are gonna be dumb don't spam this
beautiful song by putting your opinion about our church on here
because apparently you don't believe, or understand our church so
just stop and go find yourself something else to do. maybe a
different church to believe in!
"Adam is not god"? Not taught by LDS?
D&C 37:11, PoGP Moses 6:57
Hymns: "Sons of Michael, He approaches"
"We believe in Our God", "Michael is the Eternal
Are you familiar with an LDS Prophet named Brigham
"I tell you, when you see your Father in the Heavens,
you will see Adam; when you see your Mother that bear your spirit,
you will see Mother Eve."
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 1,
Hear, I'm not gonna bother in typing replys to your
attacks because I understand you go to one of those churches that
dedicate time and effort in talking trash about other churches. You
really don't know mormon doctrine... all the stuff you're saying is
what you've been told at your church and IS NOT TRUE. You're always
invited to learn about our church from the missionaries. Don't go
and ask PEPSI
Attacks? No, It is loud jangling, according to
Millet. It will only affirm the still small voice inside that
Take a deep breath, and relax. It will be OK.
I know and understand both sides, both Mormonism and
Christianity, very well. I am not attacking but sharing the truth,
that Jesus Christ is sufficient according to the Word of God. What
was that about those churches? I am not with you there. Bless you,
and take heed. I was LDS for 30+ years by the way.
lol i find that last part you wrote amazingly
interesting- 'i was lds for 30+years by the way'. well forgive us
all if we dont listen to someone who spends half their life in
something before concluding its wrong
I look at it this way. I would rather spend 1/2 of my
life in a deception, and find genuine relationship in Jesus Christ
than to never have come to know Him according to His Word....
Dude, move on...if you wasted 30 years, then that's
too bad. but you can't make up for them by trying to make yourself
feel better than others. If you can be wrong for 30 yrs, then you'll
probably have a whole other set of beliefs in 30 more. you're
straining at the gnat.
I think not. Truth is singular. I believe that the
truth is found within the Bible. Don't take my word for it, on the
contrary, get in the Word and compare doctrine, it should not
contradict LDS doctrine and teachings, but it does, and this should
My 30 year this or that is really not the issue, nor
anything about me, but your eternity is rather important. Are we
built square on truth? A look at our foundations and an examination
of the claims reveal?
I am an active member of the Church.
Brigham Young did teach that Adam is a god. There
are many Gods. Adam is a god who presides over us, and as Brigham
Young taught, Adam's own Father--the great Elohim--is the God who
presides over all of us, whom we worship and pray to, whom Adam also
prayed to and worshipped. Brigham Young never taught false doctrine,
but many have falsely misinterpreted his words. All of the
Presidents of the Church have been in harmony with each other.
LDS, I admire your honesty.
Remember were talking about the SAME Savior that
forcefully rebuked and wipped those men who were making His house a
Den of thieves. he went through to much pain and suffering to allow
HIS gospel be turned into men with no authority given to them, make
money off the poor and call themselves the lord's servants.
LDS believe that they will become Gods, also that
they can somehow save through works for the dead in the foreign
temple made with mans hands today...
Making what Jesus did of none effect.
For Christians today, our bodies are the temple of
the Living God according to the Word. We do not seek to become Gods.
We humble ourselves, and are called to pick up our
cross and follow Him. That is to lay down our selfish pride, our
flesh, that He may dwell in us
YEP I BELIEVE IN A SAVIOR, WHOES BLOOD CAN LITERALLY
PERFECTS ME IF I EXPERT FAITH IN HIM. THEN I CAN KEEP HIS
COMMANDMENT BE YE PERFECT EVEN AS MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN IS
PERFECT. i DONT BELIEVE THE saVIOR WAS MIXING WORDS THERE, HE
UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE WAS SAYING. do YOU BELIEVE THE ATONEMENT CAN
PERFECT YOU? IS IT AN INFINITE ANOTEMENT THAT PERFECT US? OR IS THAT
What Jesus accomplished in His walk with us, was
significantly more than just what occurred in the Garden.
The entire OT was advertisement and anticipation of
His coming. He came. ALL prophets and law was fulfilled.
Much changed at that transition between the OT and
NT, none of which requires a 'restoration'.
One of the accomplishments of Christ was the
provision of a white Robe at the wedding feast whereby all were
called, but few came. One chose to enter in without the free
STOP BEATING AROUND THE BUSH!
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. USING YOUR ONLEY SOURCE THE
BIBLE. IF YOU SAY THAT I AM DENIED CHRIST MERCY. THEN PUT A LIMIT TO
HIS BOUNDLESS ATONEMENT IN ITS CHANGING AND PERFECTING EFFECT UPON
THE HUMAN SOUL THEN YOU BETTER HAVE EVIDENCE, yOU BEING A CHRISTIAN.
DONT HAVE "ITCHING EARS" AS PAUL SAID. BE STRIAHGT
WITH ME AND EVERYONE THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO PERSUADE NOT TO BELIEVE
IN THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS.
Reply so WHAT! I BELIEVE IN EVERY DOCTRINE THAT
BRIGHAM yOUNG HAS TAUGHT. i HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT ONE AT ALL.
BELIEVE OR NOT I AM A ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE LDS CHURCH AND I AM IN
GOOD STANDING WITH THE CHURCH. I KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE QUOTED IS
DOCTRINE TAUGHT BY THE MOUTHPIECES OF THE LORD AND PROPHETS NEVER
TEACH FALSE DOCTRINE. so WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH THAT DOCTRINE OF
LDS are now attempting to call Mormonism -Christian.
That is part of why I am here.
Both are built upon different foundations. One, upon
Jesus Christ alone, the other on shifting sands. Adam-God is only
one of many things out of alignment with the Word. In publicly
attempting to pass itself as Christianity, Mormonism has called out
many who are rising up to defend their belief in Jesus Christ of the
A comparison of LDS doctrine, and teachings with the
Bible is important.
So how does that make me in anyway not qualified to
believe and have faith in the Sacrifice Of the SAvior of the World,
Jesus Christ? Where does God say that in the Bible? Find a verse for
me in the K.J.V. I promise you it wont say that i cant believe in
Christ. if being a Christian means to draw close to God with your
lips but having your hearts far from him. then claiming to have a
form of godiliness but then denying the power of God. Then your
right im not a Christian in how you see it.
Question: Is it your hope (goal) to reach the 3rd
degree of the Celestial Kingdom according to the LDS plan of
The beliefs of the church contradict the doctrine.
They also contradict the teaching of the King James Bible. Study it,
and never take a verse out of context.
SO VERSE IN THE k.J BIBLE DO WE CONTRADICT. WHEN YOU
SAY THE BELIEF OF THE CHURCH CONTRADICTS THE DOTRINE, I WOULD AGREE
WITH YOU ON THAT WITH GOOD AMOUNT OF THE LATTER DAY SAINTS. BUT ISNT
THAT PRETTY COMMON IN THE BIBLE WITH THE CHILDREN OF ISAERL. GOING
AGAINST WHAT PROPHETS TAUGHT AND WORSHIPPED FALSE GODS AND BELIEVED
FALSE DOCTRINES AND PRACTICES. YOU CAN SEE THAT IN OLD TEST. CLEAR
TO THE NEW TEST. INT THE EPISTLES OF PAUL
Comparing doctrine within the Bible, and comparing
LDS contradiction with Christianity are two very different things.
For one, the Bible is supported by history,
archeology, and ancient writing.
Two, an understanding of the significance between the
OT and the NT would assist you in what you are saying.
Nearly everything changed at the transition between
the OT and the NT. Of those changes, none needed to be 'restored'.
What Jesus did there He did once once for all,
well in acts 3:19-21 it says there must be a "restitition
of all things" before the Son of God can come for his second coming.
read it, its pretty clear. in COr chapter 2, paul says that we
should compare spiritual things to spiritual things and not with the
wisdom of man. So is your belief on history, Archeology and ancient
writting. where is the power of god in that? Next, jesus said he
came to fulfill the law and not take it away. So please answer my
question i previously asked?
The Law is the OT.
In the NT Jesus said that in Him ALL the law and the
prophets were fulfilled. (The OT prophesied a super cool great
moment..the OT was a "Shadow" of the real thing.)
Well the super cool great moment came as prophied,
and now we in the NT have the "real" thing in Jesus Christ.
Jesus gave us a new 'commandment' that you "love one
another as I have loved you, whereby all the law and the prophets
Read all the church's litature and you will find the
most profound and deep and beautiful things concerning the majesty
and perfection of the Son of God. Jesus undersands that life is hard
and confusing. HIM not being the "Author of Confusion" is not going
to condradict himself and leave his beloved children in the dark.
Thats why Paul being a prophet counsled us in these last days to not
"despise not prophecyings." or revelation whether in the bible or
not in the bible. we need everything...
I agree that the God of the Bible is not the "Author
LDS doctrine often is out of alignment with the
Bible. The shifting doctrine to me is a bit confusing. Adam is god
or not, Blacks saved or not, God or Gods?, punishment signs in the
temple or not, polygamy or not, works for the dead?, isn't Jesus
sufficient?. Really this is confusing God's word.
In LDS literature and teachings, salvation is
In the Bible, Jesus alone is our Salvation.
WHY WORRY ABOUT THE MEAT OF THE LDS DOCTRINE? SEE IF
THERE IS ANY CONTRADICTION OR ERROR IN OUR DOCTRINE IN HOW WE EXERT
FAITH IN HIM,REPENT, ARE BAPTIZED, RECIEVE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST.
If IT IS ALL ABOUT HAVING IN JESUS UNTO SALVATOIN, THEN KEEP IT AT
THAT, WHEN EXAMNING IF WERE CHRISTIANS. ITS ALL ABOUT THAT RIGHT?
THAT OUR FOUNDATION, AS WE CLAIM, WE HAVE NEVER CONTRADICTED ON
The foundation is everything...
Upon what foundation do we stand? If Christ alone
(when we are claiming to be Christians) then that foundation is
If Christ plus thousands of other commitments,
doctrines, covenants, then Jesus is not sufficient.
Salvation is in Jesus Christ alone. Anything else is
PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTIONS! WHY AM I DISQAULIFIED TO
HAVE FAITH IN JESUS AND BE ABLE RECIEVE HIS LOVE?? DOES JESUS'S
aTONEMENT PERFECT US? DID JESUS CONTRADICT HIMSELF WHEN SAID BE
PERFECT AS HIS FATHER IS PERFECT? IS THE aTONEMENT iNFINITE?
The answer lies within my question. "Is your goal to
reach the 3rd degree of the Celestial Kingdom as per LDS plan of
None are disqualified, although many choose 'another
Mans perception of 'perfection' varies.
And what Jesus did, he did forever..
OK THEN OFCOURSE. I WANT TO RECIEVE EXALTATION IN THE
CELESTAL KINGDOM (COR 15:40-43, COR 12:1-5, ROMANS 8:16-17), BEING
SEALED TO MY FAMILY FOR TIME AND ALL ETERNITY (2 PETER 3:7). TO BE
WITH MY FATHER IN hEAVEN AND SAVIOR, JESUS, AND CONTINUALLY GROW AND
BE PERFECTED IN THEIR GRACE AND MERCY.
Do you believe that we can become a God, once we have
achieved or reached that level of Glory (3rd degree of Celestial
Also how do interpret what Jesus meant in Mark when
he said, "They neither marry nor are given in marriage in heaven"?
also, I am not sure how 2peter 3:7 applies to your
1) nO I dont believe at the moment were in the
celestial kingdom were Gods. For most the part, if not all, i
believe it will take alot of time and learning before it happens.
2) that the ordinance of being sealed to a spounse is
done on earth and is not performed in hevean.
3) the Husnabd and wife are heirs together. aka,
joint hears in christ. neither is the men without the women, Nor is
the women without the man, IN THE LORD. Cor 11:11
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0 Reply i dont see where you are going with this?
My hope is for everyone to first, look at what they
are standing upon for salvation, and two to become willing to be
teachable, to develop an ear to hear, to be able to examine a thing
instead of bury the head in the sand, and to see that many who are
sharing are not the enemy, but rather people who genuinely care for
you. Some see attack but that is merely a trained response. It is
good to see the whole picture not from just one side. Satan is
crafty, and we must be on guard.
then with that being said, what is to be learned from
this little conversation? what truths can be sifted out? was there
any validity in what has been expreessed by either party?
it is good to see the whole picture. But Relize when
they say we dont believe in the Savior. We take it personally.
Because it is a real and personal gospel. Me and others have cried
to the Savior pleading for forgiveness and that beautiful peace was
send to us by him, manifesting his acceptence. while..
When you call Mormonism Christianity know that we as
Christians do not take it lightly, Christianity is NOT Mormonism.
I do believe that it is possible for LDS to become
Christian, but the extra baggage of false doctrine, and scriptural
contradiction, and mans perception will eventually have to go.
Relationship with Jesus Christ (with God) is our
first love. Revelation 1 to the church at Ephesus....Let nothing
stand in the way.
Those are just a couple of examples that mean
everything to us. "i hope by thy good pleasure save me to arrive at
home, prone wonder Lord I feel it, prone leave the God I love,
here's my heart oh take and seal it, seal for Thy courts above."
Thats why we make covenants to help bind us and seal us to HIm.
becuase we wonder off. So Please never say this is not a christ-centered
church or anything like unto it. because you know full well that it
is and Christ himself will hold you accountable.
It is what it is.
Jesus Christ is sufficient.
Show me where God says he doesn't make convanent with
people anymore. Read hebrews the whole things is about covanent. So
it is bad to be bound to God?
What spritual contradiction? what false Doctrine?
what man's perception? You need to show me though the bible
but remembr the bible contradicts itself, in several
paces. You havent been able to show any contradict
IN the temple, We go their to be close to God and
remember that it is though The Lamb of God and my faith in our faith
in him that allows our families who we love so very much be together
forever. That we will be resurrected and hopefully, if faithful,
have not only a wedding garment but a clean Garment washed by His
atoning blood. To enter into His and His father's presence.
God is in us now. He is not in a building built with
mans hands today, that was done away with as Jesus forecasted. "Know
ye not that your body is the temple?"
LDS claim a 'restored gospel' in examining the
Temple, restored from what?
Where is the original?
Jesus said "Let your yes be yes and your no be no"
We are not to be bound again to anything in contract,
covenant this is not of God.
We are called to understand the covenant that Jesus
made with us...... "I do"
we can to help us come to know our Savior and his
plan for us. He is not the Author of confusion and is not going to
leave His children in the Dark. Him being most intellegent and able
to exert the most faith in His Father still understood that life was
a challenge and a test. With that being said, Him having that
understanding, is not purposely going to let his faithful children
be tossed by the Interpetation of man and have be called the Word of
God. He is too just to allow that to happen..
We are actually called to seek Him, to learn of Him.
He has never left us. "I will never leave you nor forsake you".
Jesus who said, "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father",
came to have relationship in the flesh with us to show us what it is
like to be 'indwelt by God' who is a spirit according to Jesus.
You see when Jesus paid your penalty and mine at the
cross he also gave us a covering that enables God to dwell in us
now. This was not possible in the OT before Christ.
Last entry Feb11th 2008
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